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exclusive. and buckingham scrambles to fix obama care. insurance companies scramble to comply. and will you scramble to stay insured? and plus, he's just a regular guy? why? you will find out ♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee. (applause) thank you. thank you very much and happy new year, everybody. and welcome to huckabee from the fox news studios in new york city. the decision of a judge in california has begin the family of 13-year-old jaha mcmann january 7th that to prove she is worth to save. she went in to have a are you

teen surgery for the tonsils and instead it was the hospital that said she was bread dead and insists that life support be discontb continued. listen carefully to how the hospital spokesman refers to jaha when he answers the reporter's questions. >> their reporters and attorney have been unable to produce a physician, facility to accept a deceased body on a ventilator. if they step forward we'll do everything in our power as long as it is legal and turn the body over. >> the young lady is sadly deceased and only reason that she's breathing right now is because of a temporary restraining order that keeps a ventilator on her. that is a sad, sad tragedy and it shouldn't be prolonged. >> jaha's family fought in court

to prevent the hospital from acting without the family's permission. her mom at the bed side disputes the hospital's insistence that her daughter is dead. >> she is a beautiful girl and he is human and she is broething. and she is moving and i love when i go in there and touch her and she moves. i say hey, jaha moves more and more. and for them to say deceased and body, that is just like i said, i don't i have no words for it because that is my child they are talking about. >> look i am not a nurologist or pretend to know the level of jaha's brain function. but i am a parent and grand parent and i am a human being. and i would fight of all that is in me to hold on to hope to protect a life of a member of my family and i wouldn't be

overconfident of a opinion of a hospital that said my daughter's brain was dead because this hospital also did the surgery that put her in the condition that was supposed to be are you teen and low risk. now the family may come to believe that there is nothing to save their daughter and may take her off life support and allow her to be be the hands of god alone. but a large issue comes in a form of a question that deserves the answer. whose life is it? does jaha, belong to the hospital or lawyers or judges or medical experts or the states or to her parents? . for me the answer is simple, mothers and fathers are held responsible for the child's creation, early nurteur and training of basic social and personal skills and religious values and even decisions of health and you gene and education. does government or institutions have the right to usurp the

parents and step in as a power that is greater than parents and equal with god? i am reminded through this case that my own unwafering commitment to the value of every human life is based on the notion that every life has value and worth. there is no such person that is disposable. and one whose life is deemed to be less others and there before expendable. i can't share that. the road that starts that way and in deciding that some lives have less value and that leads to a culture that tolerates the undeserved killing of 55 million children. and china's birth policy that limits the number of children to the family and forces a forced abortion if they deviate from the state. and the culture that allowed the nazis to hideously justify the savage slaughter of jews and disabled people and mental

illness. they first had to devalue them. and now, i don't know what i would do if i was jaha's parents. i am not her parents. but i want these dear people to be allowed to make the decision of their doctor's fut and you are not the medical staff of the hospital or court. thank goodness, the court ruled right in continuing to protect the parent's rights. let's hope and pray that the court's continue to do what every court should do. respect parents over government, family over hospitals, and above all, protect jaha from them all. (applause) this story is all too familiar to the ghks guest. brother of terry shuf shief.

firry husband a won the legal rit to have the feeding tube removed. bobby sclindler is director of 2ery schiavo life and hope and supports jaha's family and joins us now bobby, it is great to have you here and first of all, know this is painful watching the whole situation with jaha play out because it brings back painful memories for your fam fament. they want to participate in going to stabilize her? that seems to put her in a lot of danger itself.

i agree with what you said. yes, we put a team together and we are working trying to get jaha transferred out of that facility and the hospital is making difficult for that to happen. putting up road blocks. with this latest roweling yesterday. they have made it accessible or easier to transfer jaha and we hope that will happen sooner than later. they refer to jaha as a body and deceased person. when this whole situation unfolded with sister terri schiavo, many people made the seam kind of connections that she was dead and nothing left of her. talk about from a personal stand point. how this affects a family. this person you love and care

for is referred to as a dead person, somebody who no longer even exists? >> this is why we are standing with the family. my heart breaks when i so the mother doing those interviews, similar to what my mom said. they labelled my sister vegetable and brain dead. wiknew terry enteracts. terry's whole case she had to prove that she was worthy of life. our fam loved her with the severe brain injury and we loved her unconditionally. and we never understood why terry's case made what it does. we were a family that wanted to bring terry home and care for her. just to bring her home and love and care and proved the care. with terry's and jaha's case and

so many others accepts we started the foundation. hospital boards and doctors and ethic's committees are making decision in place of family members. that's what people need to be concerned about. we are losing control and losing our medical control and rights when it comes to making decision for ourselves and loved ones. >> that is frightening. maybe people don't realize this happens regularly. the hospital makes a discussion. it may be more subtle and say there is nothing we can do. but in some cases, this one and the case of your sister, they actively wanted to take that decision from you as a family. >> look, i understand they have medical expertise and they are not gochltd that troubles many of us. your family had to fight even though you were willing to take carr of your sister and in the case of jaha, the family said we'll take care of her.

we want to be able to have the option. >> and what is the rush with this young girl? why not give her time to so if she can improve? that's serious what is happen negligent health care system. it is quality of life. and doctors and hospitals are making decisions depending on the quality of life. food and water and keeping them alive with feeding tubes. they are empowered to stop food and hydration if they choose to and families have no rights to stop it from happening and that should scare every one of us. and with government controlled health care we'll see it more and more. and leaders telling us that there is going to be health care rationing with the government bureaucrats making those types of decisions. >> the more government gets involved and the more they can make decisions.

even end of life decisions. in this case it is a hospital and that could be for the payer if the government is paying or the insurance company. look. we are done and finished here. and what does the family do? what can the family do? >> that's why we formed the foundation. families if they know we are there and available. we have the resources that many times have been able to intervene and stop it from happening. a lot of times it comes down to getting lawyers involved and putting pressure on the hospitals to stop. this sometimes you have to go to court to stop them from happening. >> bobby, stay with us, we'll have more with him when we return. there are patients who defy the doctors and they say there is no

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we are back with boeb. boeb, have you talked to the family of jaha mcmann. >> i have been in communication with the father. you can tell he is emotionally drained. he told me jaha is showing more responsiveness and they want to provide help for their daughter. >> it must have helped them to have someone like you talk to them and somebody who has been through it and understands the family's side of this. this is not medical charts and probabilities, this is about a human being, that a family loves. and wants to continue to treat as a human being. >> we want to let him know he was not alone. many people are supporting him. we would do anything we can to try to help. >> and that is a beautiful young lady.

collin ra y was scheduled to be our musical guest and he will be here to play great music. but collin is also a spokesman for terri schiavo hope and foundation. collin, great to have you here today. i think it is providential. we had this planned before jaha's case became public. and before we knew we would have bobby. this is personal to you, why? >> i have been through this. and my outcome is better than what happened for terry. in 1985. bottom line, coma does not equal death. coma is not death, period. now, that's what -- how do you upon that? my wife back in 1985. i will not get into how it happen. but basically during the birth of my son jacob, she had a huge plethora of physical problems

that caused her to lapse in a coma. within days, within days, she went from flat coma like. terry never was. connie was flat out. and whatever the brain scan said no activity in the brain and she will never weak up. vegetable. and this is 1985, a long time ago, right. within three days her neurologist sat next to me with her mother and ignoring the mother looked at moo, you do realize you have the power to put an end to this? and i was 25, i mean what are you talking about? it made me mad when i realized what he was suggesting and her mother was sobbing and he would not look at her. me as a young husband here today and gone tomorrow, i had the power to turn it off. to make a long story short. seven weeks later she woke up

and with us today. >> i have met connie. >> and you know she is fine. and i can move it and call her and put her on the phone. she is had the same assessment that this precious little girl has. >> how would that made you feel if connie was breathing and physical aspects of life going on and the doctor started to speak of her as sdoesed and we have her body here? >> i was rash back then. i probably would have gotten in his face about it back then. but then the staff were more like we understand you. and this neurologist i don't know where he came from. but the culture of death is not new. it has been brewing for a long time. in this little girl. my goodness, a month? and give god a chance. and okay, first of all, if you believe in gochltd i know god woke connie up and he healed

her. something made her wake up. whether it was supernatural or the medical field. she woke up. but bobby said there is a good chance she may improve. and the reasons for it are gruesome to me. >> bobby, final question for you. this case obviously brought back a lot of tough things as you and your family remember what you went through with terry. what encouragement can you give to jaha's family and the rest of us to remind us not to give up. >> do what they are doing and fight for their daughter and do what they can to get support and so they can get through this. to this day, i don't know what it was that got our family through that difficult time, and only thing i can point to is countless number of prayers and e-mails and phone calls. i know that had to help us in a difficult time. and the family knows a lot of

people out there supporting them and praying for the young girl to improve. >> thank you very much. and collin we'll see you later on in the show when we do music to you when we do a tribute to glenn campbell. >> first, it is it the new year. gun owners in one part of the country have to reregister and get finger printed all over again. the panel with weigh on it when

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and attorney and radio host ebone williams said good, it is it about time. emily miller is outreasonablinged by this. she is a senior opinion writer with the new york times and author of emily gets her gun. welcome back. and great to have you here. >> emily i will start with you. you are a gun owner living in dc which is a real minority. >> yeah. yeah. all right. and you wrote the book to talk about just how difficult it was to go through the whole process. what is your reaction to the new law? >> i am outraged by it? this is the first time in american history those of us who are law- a boyding and registered our guns have to go back to the police department finger print and pay 48 in frees. it is a gun tax. just like any bill of rights and it is outrageous. and this is going to be in

court. dick heller who got the overturn in the supreme court and original ban is appealing this one as well. it is not fair. criminals are getting guns on the streets and not reg uft aring them. why do the law- abiding people have to go to the police station and pay a fine. >> if people in dc were finger printed and pay a fee in order to blog. because they might bully someone because they could cause somebody to do suicide. >> governor. we have to be concerned about safety. emily, i agree and i am an attorney and i respect the right to bear arms in this country. but if you are not overly burredern system and i don't think the dc restrictions are that. and that is fair gament i think

this will pass must are. >> what about the argument we shouldn't have to have a photo id to vote because it is an inconvenience for them and they are disenfranchise exclude they don't have an opportunity to go get the photo taken and id. is that a fair argument to ask if >> it is a balancing test and what is the worst case scenario with the thing passed. with the voter id. fraudulent voting. it is a small problem at least the data shows so far. >> in dc, we have had gun registration and handgun in 2009 and no registered gun is used in a crime. homicides are up and crime is up. furthermore there is never a gun

control law reducing the guns. criminals don't care about the laws. it is irrelevant to them. the only difference between me and the criminal. they have a mug shot in the police department. and i am the one who has to pay the fee. >> only thing that splits us aside. >> law-abiding gun roerns sometimes do crimes. some have a registered gun. >> it was not registered. >> right, okay, if it was not registered it is still happening and the deaths are something that we are concerned about whether newton and navy yard. that is 13 innocent lives. >> it has absolutely nothing to do with gun ownership. gun crime has gone down to the point in the last 30 years. >> change the topics. new york times said edward snowden ought to get a little

bit of a relief here. he is really a hero and not a criminal and that he is just a whistle blower. >> i think that the nsa stuff is unconstitutional. i think it is overly broad and violates the fourth amendment. but mr. snowden has to be responsible for the way he went about his disclosures and when you have to assess the fact that he knew what the consequences would be. he has to be prepared for those. i think the government should entertain the notion of plea bargain. >> you work for the state department. you might have a different perspective of dealing with mr. snowden? >> i worked in the bush administration for secretary powells and rice. i had top level security chlorrance and snowden did as well. when you take that oath, you understand that it is people and american's lives and foreign assets are at risk when you release information. you can't know the consequences

of what you do. and you have to prosecute snowden fully for what he's done because he put lives at risk. >> all of us might agree that snowden is no hero in terms of what he has done, but while he's no hero, he did commit a crime. he's done a great service to all of us by illuminating the trampling of every right of the americans in being spied on and that is clearly unconstitutional. >> great to have you here and terrific conversation with you. emily and ebonnie thank you for coming. >> thank you. >> (applause) why is this man wearing nothing but a pink tu- tu in the middle of the new york times square. he is doing all of this for a good cause. you wonder what it is. you will meet him and hear his people join angie's list for all kinds of reasons.

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to foxnews.com. now huckabee. (applause) well, i want to wish a happy birthday to ka ra douglas turning 100 on january 6th. we say happy birthday and happy new year to you and your loving family. happy birthday kera. >> if you walk through new york city's times square on any given day. you will run into colorful characters. while most of them are street performers looking for tips. my next guest poses for photographs in his costume for a greater cause he and his tu- tu have been in the lincoln memorial and goldenigate bridge and san francisco and grand canyon in arizona. he did it to cheer up his wife.

he's published a book call baller ballerina they join me now. >> so nice to have you here. >> as close as i am getting to the tu- tu. i am wearing a pink tie in your honor. no way i am getting in the tu- tu. bob. ain't going to happen how did you think of the whole yfd a tu- tu, bob? what was going on in your head? it started out as a assignment and it was for a ballet company in arizona we moved to noefshg 11 years ago and i was photographing myself where was

this one taken? >> in italy and tuscany. >> that probably caused heads to turn? >> yeah. a few italian ladies giggled and kept walking. it is better than that. >> very much so. linda when he first showed you himself in the tu- tu, i am curious did you say, bob, you need help? >> no. i am sure i laughed quite a bit. i am used to bob's creative solutions to projects and life situations. and i laughed. i know i laughed a lot. come on, he's in a pink tu- tu. >> you were fighting breast cancer when this started and why he did it? >> it started before that and it grew once i was diagnosed with breast cancer. >> did it cheer you up.

>> certainly. it was great to focus on when i got chemo therapy. we moved to the city and it was nice to have a break from life. >> when you shed it initially to your friends and said hey, here's my husband. i am curious what kind of a response did you get from that. >> good friends beyond and maybe family wanted to hear the story beend it. what is bob up to now. >> one of the shots we have. bob, where was this one? it was with the ballet company? >> it was with the american ballet theater in len concenter. >> wow, they let you go on stage in the tu- tu? >> yes, they set it up with the stage manager and he helped to make it happen. >> this is my favorite. in a opera house in new jersey and that is willie nelson's guitar.

most famous other than bibiking's. the day that the guitar gives up. when it gives out he's done and finished and retiring and you got to hold it and stand there with it. it was pretty col. >> yeah, all i employer hearing is the crew saying do not drop that guitar whatever you do. >> lippeda, of all of the photos that bob has taken of himself in the tu- tu. do you have a favorite? >> this one right here. it is timing. and i love this photograph. >> it is it a little corny. okay, audience calm down. >> it is, i like the fact that you don't know whether he is disappearing or emerging and for someone with cancer, there is a lot of questions going on and it really appeals to me. >> you have a book from this and foundation and raise money for

people going through breast cancer, bob, bottom line, why do you do this? >> we have seen a lot of people going through the treatments. there is not a lot of organizations that help women go through the treatment. linda has seen firsthand, friends that came to chemo therapy with their child because they don't have child care. that is a hard part of the treatment to deal with the chemo therapy andó for us, if they don't have the means to you know, be taken care of, you know, i feel like it is up to us to help out with that. >> let me just say, what you have done is unique and creative and i hope you are the only man in america that wants to do it? it is a wonderful tribute to your wife. you chose a unique way to

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this woke's kathleen sebelius was sent a letter saying all of the recent changes to fix obama care are illegal because th are not approved by congress. my next guest left of the health care industry last month. she saw what obama care is doing to insurance companies and state commissioners. it is not pretty. this is her first opportunity to speak freely about what he witnessed. welcome julie from united health care. she was the arkansas insurance commissioner in my tenure as governor and my appointee. >> the state's attorney general foiled a lawsuit saying that what the obama administration has done is illegal.

why do you think that the lawsuit has merit? >> well, because i think they are exactly right. by excutive order, you can't just change what congress has passed. he can't just go in there and say oh, well, i know this was law, but it is not working and we don't like it. we'll change it on a whim. it will not work. >> a lot of people don't understand the process. he said we'll go a head and let the states if they want to keep the insurance, as a state insurance commissioner, you know that brings havoc to the industry. explain to the audience why does that make a big deal to the companies and regulators? >> there are so many things in the 2,000 pages and man dates and directives, and so many time lines to me, not only on the insurance state government, and on the federal government itself.

it just would not work. there are so many things to change and look at. and as you come forward, you have financial responsibilities, you have policies that are in effect already, and consumer corns. vustate laws that are in affect that have to be taken care of. >> is it possible structurally for obama care to work? is it something that if we give time it will work or is it structurally doomed to fail and i am asking as a regulator and an attorney within the insuranceistry? one answer. >> that's not fair. >> i know it is fair. can it work? >> the short answer is no. and i will preface and i said no first and you can't preface.

i come from the perspective that the federal government has no business in this business and no business regulating the insurance industry and other things that it regulates. it cannot work. the federal government is not built to be a insurance company. it is not built to do this. it is not efficient or effective and it is it too large and too far away from the people. it does not understand insurance. insurance, needs to be regulated closer to the people. it needs to be regulated in the state level as it was. >> that is one of the big issues, the obama care takes it away from the states and turns it to the federal government. julie, we need to talk sometime. it is a complicated issue and one that americans never fully grasped as to the challenges of obama care. i appreciate you opening the

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greatest country music artists of all time and he's one of the most famous people who have come from my home state of arkansas. collin raye is a successful country singer from arkansas and paying tribute to glen campbell with a new cd called "still on the line, the songs of glen campbell." tell me about what motivated you to say let's do something really special to honor glen campbell and his music? >> i'm dating myself, but i

remember watching the glen campbell good time hour in 1969 as a little kid. it was such a good show. i wanted to imitate him, emulate him. i thought he was the best voice i ever heard. as fate would have it, when i became successful, the first star where met was glen campbell. he was always so respectful to me, and we had been friends ever since. back in the days of tnn, we used to host things together, and a lot of folks know that glen had developed always hi eed alzheim. and my mom has that. if anybody has that in your family, you know what the future holds. i don't know, at some point, someone needed to do a tribute to this man, an incredible catalog of songs he has had, has, and i just wanted it to be me, and i wanted to do it while he could still appreciate it and feel the love that we put into the album. >> let's introduce the band. randy harper on tkeys who playe

with collin all the time, and joining us, the little rockers. bob higgins on drums today. let's do one of glen campbell's big songs, galveston. ♪ galveston oh galveston ♪ i still hear your sea winds blowing ♪ ♪ i see the dark eyes rolling ♪ she was 21 ♪ and i left galveston ♪ galveston oh galveston ♪ i still hear your sea waves crashing ♪ ♪ the waters splashing

♪ i dreeam of galveston ♪ ♪ i can see her standing by the water ♪ ♪ standing there looking out to sea ♪ ♪ and is she waiting there for me ♪ ♪ on this beach where we used to run ♪ ♪ galveston oh galveston ♪ i am so afraid of dying ♪ before i dry the tears she's crying ♪ ♪ before i see her flying in the sun ♪ ♪ galveston

♪ at galveston ♪ ♪ >> love you, glen! >> well, i hope you get the cd. still on the line. thanks for joining us on this very first show of 2014. happy new year, everybody. until next time, this is mike huckabee from new york. good night, and god bless.

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